Tuesday, December 22, 2009

S.C. Firefighters Forced to Remove Nativity Scene

Only in America, can this offend a DEMOCRAT..

After charges that it illegally promotes Christianity with a nativity scene at Fire Station 12 in West Ashley, the city of Charleston removed the creche from display.

The Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, which advocates separation of church and state, sent a letter dated Dec. 17 to Mayor Joe Riley and Fire Chief Thomas Carr notifying them of the city's Constitutional breach and requesting removal of the creche from the fire station. The letter expressed dismay that the problem has occurred for at least six years. A local resident had complained to the organization about the creche, the letter states.

"As you are aware, this display has been erected each year in December since at least 2004," wrote Freedom From Religion Foundation staff attorney Rebecca S. Kratz. "Last year's display included an illuminated Latin cross (the preeminent symbol of Christianity) atop the firehouse roof. We were pleased to learn that as of the date of this letter, the Fire Department appears to be honoring the separation of church and state by at least not displaying a Latin cross this year."

A large, white, illuminated cross was on display Sunday evening at the station, though no creche was to be seen. The nativity scene had been removed Thursday in response to the complaint, according to fire department personnel. The cross was leaning against a stone memorial to the nine firefighters who died in the 2007 Sofa Super Store blaze. It was not part of a Christmas display, firefighters at the station said READ MORE...


  1. "Only in America, can this offend a DEMOCRAT.."

    I didn't see any Democrats or spokespeople for the Democratic Party mentioned in that story.

    The Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation is the group that made the complaint.

  2. because "radical secular progressives" are running that organization and are people who believe simply just because the word "God" doesn't appear in the U.S Constitution, it shouldn't be anywhere. Schools, Municipal buildings, Fire House's etc...These people, the ACLU etc..are all democrats. You can't believe that they're Republicans and Conservatives knucklehead, do you?
    Maybe libertarians... who side with democrats..But def. the democratic party.

    The word "God" appears in the preamble in eight state constitutions. In four states, the "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" is used instead. By far, the most popular divine reference in a preamble is "Almighty God." This appears in the preamble of 30 state constitutions. In some states, the state constitution does not have a preamble. However, a divine reference can be found in the religion clauses in the bill of rights in each instance. There is only one state constitution which has a preamble that does not have a divine reference of any kind. This is the Constitution of Oregon. But here the words "Almighty God" appear in the state religion clauses. In the case of the U.S. Constitution however, no divine reference appears in either the Preamble or in the religion clauses in the First Amendment.

    Why is this true?

    The most likely reason why the word "God" does not appear in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution is textual. The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution is modeled after the Preamble in the Articles of Confederation. Since the Articles of Confederation did not use the word "God" in the Preamble, this is the most likely reason it does not appear in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution.

    It doesn't mean that they're right..The Firehouse should be able to keep that up and all these people are in the dem party...

    Loosen up geek, will ya..

  3. You loosen up, you're the one listing all these irrelevant (geeky) facts. I don't care if they put six Nativity Scenes.

    This isn't a Democratic Party effort, is all I'm saying.

  4. It isn't a dem party effort, you're correct. i think it's supposed to be sarcasm because these people use the democratic party to promote their agenda. most of the people who want god out of the schools and fire dept's are democrats. you could say the same thing about a gay issue..I guess..

    If the democratic party was abolished along with the aclu I doubt there would be any complaints is what I am saying.

    I think it's horrible that these fireman can't display this. Im not religious but Im not gonna deny that this great country was built on christianity and it should be respected.

    I will always be that way..and it seems democrats are always including and supporting org. like this probably because they need their votes and donations..but thats what dems do. Their entire party is made up of civil rights whiners, trial lawyers and aclu clowns. easliy offended babies and people who live to attack the christian white male. I notice it and I dont like it.

  5. And the Republican party directs its appeal to religious groups of various types, business groups, the NRA corporations (both I suppose in that regard) and on and on. And don't forget the tea baggers.

    Both parties have coalitions that they have to appeal to in order to hold on to their base.