Sunday, March 21, 2010

Video: Rove, Plouffe battle over ObamaCare, deficits. One man used political slogans, the other used the actual figures from the bill.

HotAir- One man used political slogans, the other used the actual figures from the bill. In my mind, Karl Rove wins the debate on ObamaCare over David Plouffe on substance, although Plouffe stays cooler in the exchange. Plouffe’s stalwarts will obviously reach the opposite conclusion, but what’s most interesting about this exchange is that Plouffe never rebuts the charges of double counting or the sleaziness of leaving out the planned “doc fix.” Either Plouffe’s implicitly admitting to it, or he’s out of his league when it comes to arguing on the accounting.

“We will see if they pass this bill,” Karl Rove, who was “the Architect” behind George W. Bush’s two successful Presidential elections, said. “I hope they don’t. I pray they don’t. It will be an economic disaster for the country if they do.” Rove said that the health care bill used “Bernie Madoff-style accounting” and was an “gigantic disaster.”

“Karl and the Republicans would be familiar with that,” Plouffe retorted. “Under their leadership, they took us from big budget surpluses… to a $1.3 trillion deficit,” he said.

Rove hit back: “Look, you have run up more deficit, before this bill, in the first 20 months and 11 days of your term in office then was done in the entire Bush years!”

“Don’t be lecturing us about what you’re doing with the profligate spending that started last year with the failed stimulus bill,” Rove said, “and continued with your budget increases.”

“You will bankrupt the country, if this bill passes!” Rove insisted.
Plouffe responded with another jab: “Karl and the Republicans have zero credibility – about as much credibility as the country of Greece does to talk about fiscal responsibility.”

Rove, brandishing a white board with health care cost figures, interrupted: “For God’s sake, will you stop throwing around epithets and deal with the facts for once, David!”


  1. As I read this, Democrats voted, with no republican support, to allow earmarks in the HC bill. Watching the democratic led house on C-SPAN is like watching a 5 on 3 basketball game without refs. What is Jesse Jackson Jr. doing with the gavel. This is pathetic. I think I understand parliamentary procedure better than he does. Then again, I think he understands most of it, just doesn't give a damn.

  2. To express anger and where his heart truly lies----------------------Obama engages in coitus, in a rhythmic physical union, for screwing our country------------

    Obama likes to bow low to the world---------setting up the perfect position for the country to screw him in return---------

    Obama has no idea, as do most of the democommies what they have unleashed today-----they may gloat today, maybe, but beginning tomorrow the American people will not cripple them they will destroy them once and forever---------

    Bastille Day in America-----starts tomorrow with the force of a 10 HURRICANE-----these bastards will have no place to hide-----

    some assemblage required

  3. It's ironic, constituting sick humor------
    Obama just made John Edwards claim (we our 2 nations) come true----

    One part, will constitute the useful idiots, the dependent class, with their hands fully stretched, depending on the government to regulary provided it with just enough crumbs to keep it dependent on the government----

    The other part----are the slaves to the tax devil----waking up each day, going to work, and the government siphoning off between 60 and 70 per cent of their pay, to be channeled into the government coffers, and then some of it, will be redirected to the lowest social stratum drones, supplying just enough crumbs to keep their votes dependent on the crumbs---

    How long-----do you think the working class is going to go along with this type of behavior----
    Do the math-------there is a storm brewing, and when it brakes------fill in the blanks----

  4. "Repulsive"------------------------
    The progressives are wee-ing like pigs, thinking, they have now set their progressive clock---
    wait until they finally realize, they are now the target of the GLOCK---

    It's simple-----hope the vote does the trick in November-----if it dosen't, then their are only 2 choices---------
    1-let the progressives win----and they keep us in their gulag
    2-take them out---

  5. That whirring sound you hear are the Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.

    "A Republic, ma'am, if you can keep it . . . *sigh* guess you couldn't."